British Cardinal Vincent Nichols provides an insider’s view of what’s going on before the Conclave

(3 May 2025)
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Rome – 2 May 2025
1. Mid of AP correspondent Nicole Winfield and Cardinal Vincent Nichols
2. Paintings on ceiling of Chapel of Martyrs in the Venerable English College, with a painting over the altar of the murder of St. Thomas Becket
3. Close up Cardinal Nichols’ face
4. SOUNDBITE (English) Cardinal Vincent Nichols:
"These have been unforgettable days. Since then, I think the mood has changed, particularly in the last couple of days. And cardinals, at least, are now deeply involved in their exchanges, trying to build up a picture of what needs to be done."
5. Mid of Cardinal Vincent Nichols
6. Close of altar
7. SOUNDBITE (English) Cardinal Vincent Nichols:
"Well they’re different. They’re not quite London taxi drivers, they’ve all got different opinions. Some want some somebody very local that will be you know ‘come back to Italy’ kind of thing. The last one I was with was, he said ‘Pope Francis was a bit vague for me he was a bit too touchy feely. We want somebody a bit more middle of the road.’"
8. Crucifix on altar
9. SOUNDBITE (English) Cardinal Vincent Nichols:
"Well, we’re building up a picture, I think, in these meetings day by day. And in a way it has two dimensions. One is to see Pope Francis as part of the continuity of the Church. So we’ve been looking at some of the links between what he said and did, and John Paul II, and Benedict in an entirely different way. But there are strong lines of development. And in that sense, as somebody said, we’re not picking a successor simply to Pope Francis, we’re picking a success of St. Peter."
10. Nichols speaking with Winfield
11. Close up of Cardinal’s chain with cross
12. SOUNDBITE (English) Cardinal Vincent Nichols:
"Then the second dimension is this astonishing mosaic of the church around the world that emerges and how can we have a church that is multicultural, not uniform, but deeply united. So it’s those two dimensions that interlock. And I suppose we’re looking for somebody who, even in their manner, not only expresses the depth of the faith but also its openness as well."
13. Zoom out fresco on ceiling
14. SOUNDBITE (English) Cardinal Vincent Nichols:
"But nevertheless, there’s a sense that the initiatives that this man of such originality took probably do need rooting a bit more to give them that stability and evident continuity. So these aren’t just the ideas of one person, one charismatic person, but they are actually consistently part of how the Church reflects on humanity and our own humanity and our world."
15. Mid of Cardinal Nichols
16. Nichols’ cross on silver chain
17. SOUNDBITE (English) Cardinal Vincent Nichols:
"I’m getting on now in years, but I can never remember a time when Catholics all agreed about everything. I mean, as a child I remember my father and his mate, they used to argue into the night, mostly about Catholic teaching or practice or whatever. So, you know, we’re not a boys’ brigade that marches in step. You know, it’s a community of vibrant, hopefully thinking, responding people. And of course there are disagreements. But that’s not disunity."
18. Winfield talking to Nichols
19. SOUNDBITE (English) Cardinal Vincent Nichols:
"We’re of quite different styles, I think. So Cardinal Cormac (Murphy-o’Connor) loved to be at the centre of the party. I’m a little more reserved than that and a little bit more introverted."
20. Fresco on ceiling
21. SOUNDBITE (English) Cardinal Vincent Nichols:
22. Fresco on ceiling
23. SOUNDBITE (English) Cardinal Vincent Nichols:
24. Tilt down from painting on ceiling to altar
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